Secretary Clinton has let it be known that she understands this is going to be a very long campaign, almost a year and a half left to go. Also, she has indicated from the very beginning that she will take control, and responsibility, for the conduct of her campaign, recognizing the mistakes made in her last one. It will be slow, it will be deliberate, and it will be done in a well thought out way so that, by the time its over, everything that should be put out there, will be.

Now, I haven't studied Hillary's plans and ideas that went into how the campaign will be carried out as much as I should have. But, again, she has let it be known that there is a plan, and it will consist of different phases. The first phase is to simply get out there, reintroduce herself to all the many constituencies that will make up her potential supporters, and voters. That's what she's doing now. She's speaking, and, more importantly, listening, to a wide, and varied, audience, just to get better acquainted, and get a better understanding of people's problems, and, desires. And, so far it's working. (Just as it did, so successfully, in her 2 Senate campaigns in NY) She's letting all the hatred and vitriol that we all knew was coming, get out there for all to see and experience. And, step by step, her narrative is being expressed, while the image that's being forged is that here's a woman who can take the best shot the Neanderthals have to give, but to stay focused on those who have been given the short end of the stick for so long, and will now have a champion who, first of all, knows what those problems are, and second, knows how get them fixed, regardless of all the obstacles that will be thrown in her path.

You can call it schmaltzy, phony, or anything else you want to, but this is what she said she was going to do, and she's doing it, quite well if you ask me.

But in this particular instance, the famous attorney forthrightly admitted in his autobiography that the Great Depression had greatly reduced his personal wealth, and so he accepted the case primarily because the Bell family offered him a lot of money to do so. As an aside, he also noted that he and his wife Ruby had never been to Hawaii, and they were excited about the opportunity to see Honolulu.

Darrow was paid the then-princely sum of $40,000 -- the equivalent today of about $750,000 -- plus an additional $10,000 in projected expenses, by the Bells for what amounted to three months' work. That's why and how this renowned civil libertarian ended up nearly five thousand miles from his Chicago home in far-away Hawaii, defending a well-known heiress and her son-in-law accused of lynch murder.

As far as seeing Honolulu was concerned, Darrow arrived with the city in a general civic uproar over the Massie Affair. And only two days after the governor's commutation of the defendants' sentences, he was compelled to shepherd all of them and their families out of town on the next available ship, once prosecutor John Kelley publicly aired his suspicions immediately after the trial that Thalia Massie had concocted her story of gang rape for reasons known only to her, and that he further intended to indict her for felony perjury as the instigator of the whole mess.

The Massie Affair remains one of the most darkly controversial cases in the history of 20th century American jurisprudence. The two separate decisions of two different Honolulu juries to first refuse to convict Joseph Kahahawai and his four friends in the alleged gang rape of Thalia Massie, and then to hold responsible Thalia's mother and husband for Kahahawai's lynching, prompted a huge political backlash against Hawaii on the U.S. mainland, and likely set back the cause of island statehood by 20-25 years.

But to their infinite credit, those two juries got it right and further, they did so despite being under enormous public pressure from mainland and military interests to find otherwise in both instances. As we now know, it was mainland public opinion in this sorry matter, profoundly underscored by the often virulent racism of the times, which proved to be so very wrong.

Grace and her family were all welcomed with open arms and even parades by the white community when they returned to the mainland after their very public ordeal in the islands, which was often the lead story in most prominent national daily newspapers during both the Kahahawai and Massie trials. But once the initial hoopla died down and the celebrity tours were over, life proved to be very difficult and sad for both Thomas and Thalia Massie.

Two years after the Kahahawai / Massie trials had concluded, Lt. Massie filed for divorce from his wife, citing irreconcilable differences with his wife. For her part, Thalia Massie traveled to Reno, NV and did the same, citing in her own petition extreme mental cruelty and spousal abandonment on the part of her husband. That divorce was granted in August 1934.

In 1940, Lt. Massie suffered a complete nervous and emotional breakdown while aboard his ship in San Diego, which subsequently required his lengthy hospitalization, and he was discharged from the Navy against his wishes as a result. He later remarried and lived a very low-key life, passing away on January 8, 1987 -- coincidentally, 55 years to the day after Joseph Kahahawai's tragic lynching.

Following her divorce, Thalia Massie fled to Europe, where she was briefly hospitalized in Italy after what was reported to be a failed suicide attempt. She seemed to have had a pretty serious lifelong problem with alcoholism and substance abuse, and was supported financially by her mother and father for the remainder of her days.

Thalia was very briefly remarried in the early 1950s to a man who was nearly two decades her junior, but it didn't last. She died of a barbiturate overdose in Palm Beach, FL in 1963, just down the block from her mother's house. It was never determined whether that overdose was accidental or intentional.

Whatever really happened to Thalia Massie that long-ago night in Honolulu 32 years earlier, when she had stormed out of Waikiki's Ala Wai Inn nightclub in a furious huff after an argument with one of her husband's fellow naval officers, she took with her to her grave.

Now to be clear, there's absolutely no doubt that she had obviously been beaten badly by someone later that evening, because her jaw had been broken in two places. But the available evidence also just as clearly precludes any possibility whatsoever that Joseph Kahahawai and his friends could have assaulted Thalia that night, never mind gang raping her.

Most likely, from various eyewitnesses who saw Thalia Massie walking down Waikiki's Ena Road that same night with another white man who was not her husband, she had probably run afoul of that particular person, who may have been a former lover, since she was known to have kept the company of other men while her husband was at sea.

For her part, Grace Bell Fortescue lived to the ripe old age of 97, having inherited her family's fortune in the 1940s. She lived the high life with husband Rolly, and they resided in a Palm Beach mansion which she had curiously decorated with a boldly Hawaiian motif. She had always expressed a fondness for Honolulu to her friends, and often expressed to them her desire to return to Hawaii one day. But for obvious reasons she never did, having decidedly worn out her welcome in the islands decades earlier.

I don't see a big gap there as well.

My point was that I have a feeling that when Hillary starts talking Middle East she is going to lose some support.

This is in the same post:

I am not ripping on HRC, but the zombies who have already decided what the rest of us are going to do, and are perfectly content backing a candidate before they know where she stands on many issues like the Middle East & ISIS

I believe, but don't know that CDS actually requires you be anti-HRC.  Jesus, there is like an 85% chance I am going to vote for her and I am getting tossed into the Fox News viewer brigade because I want more information.

If we've already reached the point where wanting more, when asking questions, is considered proof that someone is terminally afflicted with CDS, we're in trouble.  We'll be going back to the days where people acted like mother bears protecting their cubs, or guard dogs chained to the porch, whenever anyone dared to question Obama and what he was saying/doing.  

These politicians are not heroes.  They are not movie stars.  We are not supposed to fall in love with them.  They are the people who will largely be responsible for where the country goes and what kind of country this is going to be.  They are the people with the power to improve the quality of life of millions of people - or make life harder for them - the power to wage war, the responsibility to uphold and defend a Constitution that has gotten more than a little tattered over the last 20 years or so.  

So, when someone says that when people act as if Clinton can't be questioned, and say that that feels a little cult-like, it probably isn't because they're deranged, it's probably because we've seen what happens when people close their eyes, stick their fingers in their ears and engage in magical thinking to defend a candidate and protect them from being accountable.

I apologize.  

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by FlJoe on Tue Jul 14, 2015 at 07:55:54 AM MDT

Anne, we all know it's futile but it's so fun

So the question is what causes the changes?? You are a true believer in what some scientists say. I am not and have noted that the MMGW theory does not meet the requirements to be a Scientific Theory but must be accepted as a matter of faith...just as all religions must be.

Of course given that none of the predictions have came true it is hard to understand why anyone would believe.

Mondriggian - Given that you didn't understand what "homicide" meant it is easy for me to see why you continue to be confused.

And when you continue to believe that consensus is science you prove a shadow of doubt that you haven't the vaguest concept of what Falsifiability means.

FLJoe - When I say that I am "unsure," that means that I have read and can't find any mention as to the length in time the warming has been there, or when it started.

Of course you immediately start making claims about what I did not write. Typical of someone who can't respond with facts.

Despite its importance,the geothermal heat flux below the WAIS has not previously been measured directly.

The author further confuses the issue when he decides that C02 in the atmosphere is involved.

When you add the effects of global warming, things can start to change quickly," he said.  

Of course, as I previously showed, the ice outside of the western portion is setting new records for growth. That belies that MMGW is contributing.

But, if you want to worry about something:

LLANDUDNO, Wales, July 11 (UPI) -- Solar scientists, armed with the best data yet regarding the activities of the sun, say the Earth is headed for a "mini ice age" in just 15 years -- something that hasn't happened for three centuries.

Button up your overcoats, when the wind blows free. Take good care of yourself, you belong to me