White House Coronavirus Briefing: "We Have to Save Our Big Companies"

By Jeralyn, Section Economy
Posted on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 04:34:56 PM EST
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Donald Trump's Coronavirus Task Force is scheduled to speak to the nation in a few minutes. You can watch live online here.

The procedural vote on the Republican's Trillion Dollar [Corporate] Aid bill has been delayed. ET.

It sounds like the deal has fallen apart, and Nancy Pelosi said today the Dems will introduce their own bill.

I hope everyone reading this is feeling okay.

Update: Trump was abysmal in his delivery. He read from his speech, not a teleprompter, which it sounded like he hadn't even read before taking the podium. He rambled on about something having to do with rescuing a woman who was "horribly treated" and "terribly abused" somewhere and we needed Honduras' government's approval to "get her out of there". (Maybe that was the reason the presser started an hour late? This must be her.) [More...]

Trump said he is certain our economy will "skyrocket" when this is over. He repeated the word a few times. Is that supposed to make the people who are going under now feel better?

85 million Americans are now under orders to stay home. New York is being hit very hard. Trump announced four 1,000 bed hospital centers (wards) will be set up in California, New York and someplace else. He's sending the National Guard to help (maintain order?)

Trump went on far too long about what he has done to help veterans. To the point of telling us that he just signed a bill to make sure their online learning courses aren't interrupted. Translation: It's a big voting block and he was making a re-election pitch.

A Pentagon guy, Peter Navarro, came on to extol how Trump made his job easier. Companies are calling in to volunteer medical supplies.

The FEMA guy came on to make sure we all knew it's not FEMA's job to help individuals or give out money but facilitate supply routes to make sure the goods meet their destination.

Michael Pence then came on. He brought up testing. Forget about getting tested. He was very concerned we all understand that "commercial labs" have been instructed to give priority testing to hospital in-patients. People who already have the virus. (The critical need for testing was to determine how many people had the virus and their locations, to know where to direct supplies.)

Trump comes back on to pass the buck saying he inherited a broken system. One of the ships he ordered last week to come to the U.S. won't be here for a few weeks, it was in maintenance (and he didn't know this last week?). The ship named the Mercy will be in Los Angeles.

Trump is in favor of letting the Senators and House member who are in isolation vote from home. Of course he does - they are all Republicans.

He's talking about needing money to help the big companies get back on their feet. "We have to work with the companies". "We can't let the cruise lines go out of business". "We have to provide for them".

Shorter version for Americans (other than veterans):

How does it feel
To be on your own
With no direction home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone?

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WAAAAAAAAAA! (5.00 / 2) (#1)
by Chuck0 on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 05:45:49 PM EST

"I inherited a broken system. Nothing like this has ever happened before. I am not responsible for anything, ever" WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Please, please, please SHUT THE EFF UP!

The same propaganda (5.00 / 4) (#2)
by Yman on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 05:56:18 PM EST

... every single day. The same series of lies:

I inherited a broken system.
No one could have seen this coming.
We're doing a tremendous job.
Anyone who needs a test can get one.
There's millions of masks on the way.
A vaccination is right around the corner. Same for treatment medications.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

The networks need to stop broadcasting this garbage.


I (5.00 / 1) (#3)
by FlJoe on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 06:07:29 PM EST

noticed Dr. Fauci is missing. Contradicting the dear leader gets you kicked off the stage apparently.


He was on TV (none / 0) (#4)
by Jeralyn on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 06:09:10 PM EST

earlier so he is okay.


He (5.00 / 1) (#7)
by FlJoe on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 06:26:26 PM EST

told Jake Tapper that he was definitely going to be at today's after missing yesterdays, so I thought it was notable.


: you may be right (none / 0) (#18)
by Jeralyn on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 09:37:48 PM EST

I just had CNN on in the background all day and happened to catch the Cuomo interview and then hours later, the Trump presser.

I don't watch (none / 0) (#5)
by Ga6thDem on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 06:21:48 PM EST

but everybody who does watch is saying the same thing you are. It's just nonsense propaganda and there's no useful information to be gotten from the press conference.


This is what the Real Leader of the Free World (none / 0) (#17)
by leap on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 09:33:51 PM EST

sounds like.

This country is so embarrassing. That we have put up with FatNixon's $h!†-show for more than three years is horrifying. Actually more than 40 years. Actually, starting with the first Nixon. Actually since McCarthy. Actually, since the Republican party became the racist, misogynistic, authoritarian hate party.


: please avoid the (none / 0) (#19)
by Jeralyn on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 09:42:00 PM EST

name calling. It's not necessary and against the rules. The link to Merkel's address is much appreciated, but your characterization of Republicans using some of those adjectives is not.

Trump is using media briefings ... (5.00 / 1) (#6)
by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 06:23:13 PM EST

... as a substitute for campaign rallies. And because, just like he was at his rallies, he's been a recklessly irresponsible vector for public misinformation and politically-motivated abuse and insults, the U.S. media should suspend all live coverage of these briefings even while continuing to cover them.

Afterward, as they review what was said while deciding what to air or print, journalists, editors and producers all need to ask themselves at each particular point, "Is this statement / claim really something that we ought to amplify?"

Oh, and by the way, while we've all been navel gazing in the midst of our confinement and contemplating the now-deadly political farce that's become the Republican Party, Trump just fired the entire U.S. Peace Corps.

Stay safe, everyone.

Tomorrow is the first day (none / 0) (#8)
by Militarytracy on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 07:16:42 PM EST

Of OUR Great Depression.

The MAGAts are going to be so pi$$ed (none / 0) (#9)
by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 07:54:14 PM EST

When they figure out the whole "hoax thing" was itself a clever hoax that libruls and MSNBC made up to trick them into not believing the virus was real so they would all run out and expose themselves.

It's all proceeding according to plan.

Trumps Preacher (none / 0) (#10)
by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 08:08:00 PM EST

Thousands of people streamed through the church lobby and into the pews. Ushers at First Baptist Dallas invited members to the front rows, gesturing to the prime seats still available. Trumpets blared, bright blue and purple lights illuminated the stage, and behind the orchestra pit the 100 or so members of choir--ranging from late teens to late 60s--stood inches apart, ready to sing for the next 30 minutes.
When Robert Jeffress, the senior pastor, walked onto the stage, wearing a dark suit and shiny teal tie, he thanked the musicians.
Aside from a few empty pews in the back of the sanctuary, this seemed like any other Sunday. Except it wasn't. This was Sunday, March 15. Most of the country was already being reminded to stay at home, to practice social distancing, to flatten the curve of the coronavirus outbreak, which President Donald Trump, the man Jeffress supports at every turn, had just declared a national emergency. Every major sports league had suspended play. The city of Dallas had banned gathering over 500 people and canceled its beloved St. Patrick's Day parade and party, scheduled for the same weekend. Most ministers, rabbis and imams in North Texas had decided it was safer to share the faith on camera rather than in person. But not Jeffress.

Let's hear it fir religious freedom.


A gathering of ten is sufficient (5.00 / 1) (#12)
by Peter G on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 08:45:03 PM EST

for a minyan. What more do they want?


Do they have (none / 0) (#14)
by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 08:59:29 PM EST

mega Synagogues?


no and many are now doing (none / 0) (#20)
by Jeralyn on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 09:47:50 PM EST

the services online, but not the minyans. From an ope ed in the Wall St. Journal a few days ago, by a guy who said he and his neighbors honored his mother but having a minyan under a streetlamp, keeping their distance from each other:

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has issued guidelines against gatherings of 10 or more people, and our rabbis have suspended minyanim. From my previous service as a public-health official, I fully support the need for social distancing and I am adhering to the stricter guidelines, as is my community. My rabbi ruled that in the absence of my own kaddish, I should if possible designate someone else, in an area not under the same public-health constraints, to say the prayer for me. I must also study a Jewish text, the Mishna, during the periods in which the prayers would typically be said. The reason that Jews study this written collection of oral law during mourning is that the Hebrew word mishna is an anagram for neshama, or soul. The kaddish is said to protect the souls of the dead during the period of heavenly judgment.
Kaddish proxies and study are only backup plans, and I am discomfited at missing out on my primary obligation. This past weekend, in one of my last recitations of kaddish for the foreseeable future, I thought of past generations of Jews who encountered even more difficulties gathering together--during pogroms, wars or the Holocaust. The nearby friends, still at a safe distance, comforted me and joined me in prayer.
As American society unites to protect against the virus in the days ahead, it will be hard not to feel alone as I join other Jewish mourners in trying to meet my sacred obligation to the departed.

forot the link (none / 0) (#21)
by Jeralyn on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 09:48:51 PM EST

to the Wall St Journal article.


I think most churches are too (none / 0) (#25)
by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 10:01:50 PM EST

The ones I drive past every day have their signs saying online services except for special circumstances.

Like funerals I assume.

I was a little surprised the local ones did it so fast.

Jefferies, the guy in that link is as fringe as it gets without handling a snake on stage. He's a lunatic which is why Trump loves him.


that is sad though (none / 0) (#29)
by Jeralyn on Mon Mar 23, 2020 at 02:30:41 AM EST

that people can't even go to funerals without compromising safety.


: Judging from (5.00 / 1) (#33)
by Zorba on Mon Mar 23, 2020 at 08:27:04 AM EST

The obituaries I've seen, many people are having very small private funerals now, with the notation that there will be a memorial service/memorial meal/celebration of life, etc, after the crisis has passed.
It is sad, because for many people, the gathering together with loved ones and friends helps them all deal with their immediate grief. Not that it makes their grief disappear, but it is a comfort for many.

: Church Services (none / 0) (#35)
by Steve13209 on Mon Mar 23, 2020 at 02:21:53 PM EST

In our parish, there are no in-person church services. I didn't even know it had online video! Parish offices are closed. Funeral services are allowed, but close family only.
It seems they are doing it pretty well, but we'll see how the income stream works out. My wife may get furloughed in the next week.

Church and state (none / 0) (#11)
by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 08:31:23 PM EST

Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D) said on Sunday that Republicans were to blame for an exemption that allows churches to gather in groups of 50 or more during the COVID-19 outbreak.
Whitmer told Fox News Sunday guest host John Roberts that GOP lawmakers contacted her after she issued an executive order on Monday banning gatherings of 50 or more.
"One thing that kind of puzzles me is that you have limited groups of people to 50 or fewer," Roberts explained. "Yet, there is an exemption for places of worship. Why would a place of worship be any less likely to transmit diseases in a larger gathering than another place?"
"It's not," Whitmer agreed. "And we're discouraging people from gathering at all."
"Well, you know, the separation of church and state, and the Republican legislature asked me to clarify that that's an area that we don't have the ability to enforce and control," Whitmer said. "We are encouraging people though, do no congregate."

Mississippi Governor Reeves (none / 0) (#28)
by KeysDan on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 10:42:16 PM EST

conducted Bible readings today from his official office. Has not done much else.


: DailyBeast (none / 0) (#31)
by CaptHowdy on Mon Mar 23, 2020 at 08:08:24 AM EST

Several prominent pastors tied to Donald Trump have claimed to have the power to cure the coronavirus through prayer, hyping up religious miracle cures amid the pandemic.
Texas minister Kenneth Copeland, who visited the White House in 2018 for a dinner for evangelical leaders, claims to have a novel delivery method for a coronavirus cure: television screens.
Appearing on the Victory Channel, which his church operates, Copeland claimed on March 12 to heal coronavirus-infected viewers who touched their TVs.
"Put your hand on that television set," Copeland told his viewers. "Hallelujah. Thank you, Lord Jesus. He received your healing."
That group includes Pastor Frank Amedia, founder of Touch Heaven Ministries and the POTUS Shield Ministry, and a former "liaison for Christian policy" to President Donald Trump's 2016 campaign.
On Feb. 17, Amedia told stories of "supernatural healings" in virus-wracked China--and repeated conspiracy theories about the virus' origin--during an appearance on the podcast of Stephen Strang, an evangelical publisher who has written multiple books in support of the president, including God and Donald Trump.
Apostle Guillermo Maldonado has both visited the White House and hosted Trump at his massive El Rey Jesús church, where the president kicked off his "Evangelicals for Trump" campaign in January. In a recording posted to his YouTube channel on March 17, Maldonado declared that he had ordered the virus to "dissolve, disintegrate, die in Jesus' mighty name" and told those infected to "be healed in Jesus' mighty name."
"I curse that virus from the root and from the seed, in Jesus' mighty name, right now," Maldonado said. "Disintegrate, dissolve like the dust, in Jesus' mighty name."

They may not believe in Darwin but Darwin believes in them.

This Guy Gets it - Shut it Down now (none / 0) (#13)
by SomewhatChunky on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 08:54:50 PM EST

I think this CNBC Interview is worth a watch. About 28 minutes.

Shut it Down Now

Bill Ackman may be a billionaire, but he didn't become one by being stupid. Watch a bit before shooting the messenger. This virus is everywhere in the US. Some parts (New York) are a few weeks ahead of others on the curve, but the entire country Is on or soon will be on the same track as Italy. We are moving too slowly. That's the message the Italians keep trying to tell us.

Covid-19 isn't an economic or political issue, it's a biological one. The math is ruthless and it doesn't care what any of us think. Who gets what bailout does nothing to stop the spread of the disease. We (as a country) need to take drastic action to stop it. All of us. Too many aren't doing that.

You save big companies, employees, hourly workers etc.. by stopping the disease. If we don't everyone loses.

Conressional Votes (none / 0) (#15)
by SomewhatChunky on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 09:26:31 PM EST

The House and Senate should figure out a way to let everyone who is in isolation vote from home. Better yet, they should let all members do that. Any responsible organization has shut in-person requirements down.

Maybe it's only Republicans in isolation now. That won't be the case in a few days. Forcing them to all vote in person only insures the virus spreads throughout Congress. We don't want that - especially given the age and health situation of many members who are in the high risk group.

It's not the time to count sick people and proceed based on short-term political advantage if the count favors you.

Apparently (5.00 / 1) (#16)
by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 09:30:50 PM EST

To be able to vote remotely they must change a law. Which means they have to show up and vote on a law that says they don't have to show up to vote.

Quite the catch 22


I thought it was a Rule (none / 0) (#22)
by Jeralyn on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 09:51:21 PM EST

do you know what law it is?

The reason not to do it is because the sick Republicans won't come in to vote and then the balance will be equal between the parties.


I do not (none / 0) (#23)
by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 09:56:45 PM EST

I heard that on tv in the last few days. Doesn't mean it's true.


: CBS (none / 0) (#26)
by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 10:07:26 PM EST

Congressional rule makers are open to letting lawmakers vote remotely for legislation amid the coronavirus pandemic. But such a change is unlikely soon, even as the coronavirus prevents an increasing number of representatives from voting in-person as is required.
Even the rule change itself would require members to be present on the House floor

That's a terrible reason (none / 0) (#24)
by SomewhatChunky on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 10:01:01 PM EST

Jeralyn - with all due respect that's a terrible reason. It's also short-term. Next week it could be the other way around.

You would just be creating incentives for people who are sick (on either side) to not report their illness and NOT to isolate so they can vote. Which is 100% what you don't want.

I guarantee you when 20% of the Congress gets this or the first member dies from it they change the rule. Fear is a powerful motivator and nobody in Congress wants to get Covid-19 or die. It will become far less abstract when they see their peers falling ill.

They should change the rule now. Vote as you will but drop the political posturing stuff when it comes to safety. Set an example for the rest of us.


: I was saying the opposite (none / 0) (#30)
by Jeralyn on Mon Mar 23, 2020 at 02:33:42 AM EST

that those who are sick must stay home and not come in to vote. Security should not let them past the door of the Senate.
The vote should take place with whoever is able to attend. That three senators are sick is not a good enough reason to change the rule and allow all of them to tele-vote in my opinion.

The triggering rules ... (none / 0) (#27)
by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Mar 22, 2020 at 10:30:25 PM EST

... of both chambers are the ones that define quorums. It can be amended so that quorum can be obtained by means of telecommunication, rather than an actual physical presence on the congressional floor


Politico (none / 0) (#32)
by CaptHowdy on Mon Mar 23, 2020 at 08:17:56 AM EST

I have been reading this for a while but it was just on MJ so I guess it's officially a thing. Trump is being pressured by many around him that saving a few sick old people is not worth the damage being no done to the economy. He is "overdoing it" because he has been confused and misguided by the media and librul scientists

Donald Trump's MAGA followers finally agree: the coronavirus threat is real. But there's now a growing chorus worried the president might overdo the response.
The fear is that the media and mass hysteria has cowed Trump into fully tanking the economy in response to what they believe is a dangerous, but not apocalyptic, disease. Despite warnings from Trump's own health officials that millions could die unless drastic action is taken, some of the president's supporters worry that the dangers of overreacting could also be severe.
--
Williams blamed the media and liberals for pushing things this far.
"I mean, we are just one step away from communism at that point, you know?" she said. "With this media hype about the coronavirus, I think a lot of more democratic politicians, local politicians, are trying to push that agenda into more of a communist rule."
--
For Trump voters, and the wider universe of people who generally support Trump, the tug-of-war between acting in the interest of public health and keeping Americans financially secure is only likely to grow stronger.
"People diverge on severity of crisis versus economic cost," Reaboi said. "It's a real issue. Anyone who's not taking that balance seriously is an idiot."

: Moments ago (none / 0) (#34)
by CaptHowdy on Mon Mar 23, 2020 at 11:32:05 AM EST

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
12h
WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF. AT THE END OF THE 15 DAY PERIOD, WE WILL MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO!

Drogon lives (none / 0) (#36)
by CaptHowdy on Mon Mar 23, 2020 at 04:22:30 PM EST

Sort of

(Are we allowed to talk about anything except death dying and fiscal calamity?)

Westworld & Game Of Thrones Cross Over

It's when Bernard and Stubbs are exploring the central hub that we get our first look at Park 4, a medieval fantasy world. As they are walking through the halls they pass by two technicians, played by Benioff and Weiss. The technician played by Weiss says that he's found a buyer in Costa Rica, to which Benioff's character responds, "How the f**k are you going to get that to Costa Rica?" Weiss replies, "In pieces, man." He then approaches the subject of their conversation with a circular saw: it's Drogon, peacefully slumbering in one of the Delos workshops. With the future of the parks uncertain, it seems that Delos' technicians are trying to get financial security by selling off some assets.

It would be a nice change, wouldn't it?

Milestone (none / 0) (#37)
by CaptHowdy on Mon Mar 23, 2020 at 05:11:08 PM EST

First of many no doubt

More Than 100 Died In the Last Day from Coronavirus
March 23, 2020 at 5:44 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 20 Comments
"U.S. states on Monday reported more than 100 deaths from the novel coronavirus, pushing the country's total death toll past 500 and marking the first time single-day fatalities have risen into the triple-digits since the pandemic reached U.S. soil," the Washington Post reports.

DJIA is up so far today. (none / 0) (#38)
by Chuck0 on Tue Mar 24, 2020 at 12:16:09 PM EST

How far will it drop after the orange clown has his presser? Any wagers?

Not all bad news (none / 0) (#39)
by CaptHowdy on Tue Mar 24, 2020 at 01:49:43 PM EST

Thousands of Students to Return to Liberty University
March 24, 2020 at 10:12 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 246 Comments
"As the coronavirus threatens to spread across the Lynchburg region, Liberty University officials are preparing to welcome back up to 5,000 students from spring break this week," the Lynchburg News & Advance reports.
"Defying a national trend of campus closures, President Jerry Falwell Jr. has invited students to return to residence halls and has directed faculty members to continue to report to campus even as most classes move online."
Said Falwell: "I think we have a responsibility to our students -- who paid to be here, who want to be here, who love it here -- to give them the ability to be with their friends, to continue their studies, enjoy the room and board they've already paid for and to not interrupt their college life."

Difficult to stay (5.00 / 2) (#47)
by KeysDan on Tue Mar 24, 2020 at 04:52:48 PM EST

six feet away from the pool boy.


Easter (none / 0) (#40)
by CaptHowdy on Tue Mar 24, 2020 at 01:51:20 PM EST

Trump Wants `Country Opened' by Easter
March 24, 2020 at 1:49 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 169 Comments
President Trump says he wants the "country opened" by Easter, despite warnings from public health experts about coronavirus outbreak, the Washington Post reports.
"Trump said during a Fox News interview that he is worried that federal guidelines for social distancing, including the closure of some businesses, and other steps to mitigate the outbreak could go too far, despite warnings from public health experts that the restrictions may need to stay in place for weeks."
Easter is just 19 days away.

I don't know what Kemp (none / 0) (#42)
by Ga6thDem on Tue Mar 24, 2020 at 03:13:53 PM EST

is going to do but our bishop said plan on staying closed through April and we will assess after that.


See this? (none / 0) (#43)
by CaptHowdy on Tue Mar 24, 2020 at 03:24:40 PM EST

All Georgia Voters Will Get Absentee Ballot Request Forms
March 24, 2020 at 12:44 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 59 Comments
"Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger announced Tuesday that all of Georgia's 6.9 million active voters will be mailed absentee ballot request forms for the May 19 primary, a major push to encourage voting by mail during the coronavirus pandemic," the Atlanta Journal Constitution reports.
"The absentee voting effort will allow Georgians to decide on their choices for president and other elected offices from home, without having to visit in-person voting locations where the coronavirus could more easily spread. Early voting and election day precincts will remain open."

I read we may all be voting by mail this fall. Not sure if that's good or bad.


"Not sure if that's good or bad." (none / 0) (#44)
by leap on Tue Mar 24, 2020 at 04:00:59 PM EST

What's the down-side of voting by mail? We've been doing that in Warshington state, state-wide, since 2011. And it's been postage-paid since 2018. So, we have actual paper ballots, you know, a paper trail. The counting takes longer, but so what?

From wiki:

In 2011, the Washington legislature passed a law requiring all counties to conduct vote-by-mail elections.[35] Local governments in Washington had the option to do so since 1987, and statewide elections had permitted it since 1993.[36] By 2009, 38 of the state's 39 counties (all except Pierce County) had conducted all elections by mail.[37] Pierce County joined the rest of the state in all-mail balloting by 2014.[38] In Washington, ballots must be postmarked by election day, which helps to ensure all voters' votes are counted; ballot counting takes several days after election day to receive and process ballots.[37] Beginning in 2018 postage is prepaid so voters do not have to use a stamp.[39]

: Ok, so..... (none / 0) (#45)
by CaptHowdy on Tue Mar 24, 2020 at 04:03:54 PM EST

It's good!
I guess.

Interesting (none / 0) (#48)
by Ga6thDem on Tue Mar 24, 2020 at 07:31:46 PM EST

I would bet they continue this for the presidential election in November due to the fact that most Trump voters are likely to be elderly and sick.


This is happening all over (none / 0) (#41)
by CaptHowdy on Tue Mar 24, 2020 at 02:53:45 PM EST

And it's happening here
I live in what is at least partially a vacation community. People are coming to their vacation property. Even from small and medium sized city/towns.

Hoping to escape coronavirus, city dwellers are fleeing to California's deserts and mountains

Stephen King (none / 0) (#46)
by CaptHowdy on Tue Mar 24, 2020 at 04:31:32 PM EST

Helpfully posts a link to the audio chapter in The Stand that explains how pandemics start. Beautifully written and absolutely chilling.

Chapter 8 of THE STAND. This is how it works. Heed. (But remember COID-19 is not as lethal as the superflu.)